thankyou all for your help i have a 3 peaks collar but we only got that this week but still little large for her she slipped off her collar other day and i got to be carefulk as mishka is in heat but usally its hand control like when standing to chat shes pulling my arms out of my sockets and pulling at lead we tried all sorts of collars and choke chain one stage but i didnt like that, i know maybe i shouldnt stand and chat ,,lol when she was a little younger it took us 10 mins to get a harness on her but once on she was all ok , shes 9 months now.