meeshsalts Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 When I am in the States there are always lots of adverts for Wolf hybreds. A few years ago there was quite a few available in the UK but there seem to be less and less now. I have met 3 Wolf hybreds in the UK and two of them were 50/50 Husky wolf both importef from the US. Both were really quite timid around people. meesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISDW Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 German Shepherd x Siberian Husky = Gerberian Shepsky is a hybrid breed recognized by the ACHC http://www.dogbreedi...ehybridclub.htm I don't want to offend anybody but seriously, a club set up to register crossbreeds - hmmm, I guess making money has nothing to do with it. There are many clubs set up around the world to register dogs, doesn't mean anything, certainly doesn't mean that they have any ethics when it comes to breeding or selling. That club ACHC is for first generation crosses, so does that mean that if you have two of them, and mate them, then you can't register those pups, as they're not F1 hybrids? I think I might set up a new register for dogs and charge people for papers, what shall I call it? The Northern Inuit and Utonagan were developed in England The Saarloos Wolfhound in the Netherlands The Czechosloviakian Wolfdog, in the Czech republic. The Tamaskan in Finland The Czech is recognized byt the FCI and CSSR The Tamaskan is only recognized by Tamaskan specific kennel clubs. The Saarloos Wolfhound is recognized by the FCI and The Dutch Kennel Club. The breed was originally meant to create a German Shepherd immune to distemper. The Utonagan came from the same founding parents of the Northern Inuit, but were taken to America to further establish the breed. The Utonagan is not a recognized breed by any kennel club. The Northern Inuit are recognized by the British Kennel Club and respective Inuit specific Kennel Clubs and associations. Sorry, I don't know if theres another agency called the British Kennel Club, but if you mean the Kennel Club in Britain, no, the NIs are not recognized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroush Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I don't want to offend anybody but seriously, a club set up to register crossbreeds - hmmm, I guess making money has nothing to do with it. There are many clubs set up around the world to register dogs, doesn't mean anything, certainly doesn't mean that they have any ethics when it comes to breeding or selling. That club ACHC is for first generation crosses, so does that mean that if you have two of them, and mate them, then you can't register those pups, as they're not F1 hybrids? I think I might set up a new register for dogs and charge people for papers, what shall I call it? I never said it was a "kennel club", it's just a registry in order to recognize the crossbreeds there are so that they are identifiable when it is only a cross between two breeds, it is not considered a "mutt" just crossed. Sorry, I don't know if theres another agency called the British Kennel Club, but if you mean the Kennel Club in Britain, no, the NIs are not recognized. "Over the years various people have split from the original Northern Inuit Society to form their own breed groups. These have included The Inuit Dog Association, The British Inuit Dog Club, and The Utonagan Society; the latter has also now splintered into different groups. None of these clubs have been accepted by larger organizations such as the British Kennel Club. Northern Inuits were, however, present at the March 2008 Crufts show, winning the first ever canine cross event, a running race with dogs and owners (you can see a video of this [1]). The two Northern Inuit dogs in the canine cross race placed 6th and 1st, the former a dog from Akna Kennnels and the latter a British Inuit bred by Shoshone Kennels and trained by Akna Kennels. Although not officially recognized by The Kennel Club, Northern Inuits are eligible to be registered in The Kennel Club's Companion Dog Club and participate in some performance events, including agility and obedience. They are ineligible for sled dog mushing events or pulling a rig (wheeled sled), as only purebred Kennel Club-registered dogs can be entered in these." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Inuit_Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISDW Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I never said it was a "kennel club", it's just a registry in order to recognize the crossbreeds there are so that they are identifiable when it is only a cross between two breeds, it is not considered a "mutt" just crossed. "Over the years various people have split from the original Northern Inuit Society to form their own breed groups. These have included The Inuit Dog Association, The British Inuit Dog Club, and The Utonagan Society; the latter has also now splintered into different groups. None of these clubs have been accepted by larger organizations such as the British Kennel Club. Northern Inuits were, however, present at the March 2008 Crufts show, winning the first ever canine cross event, a running race with dogs and owners (you can see a video of this [1]). The two Northern Inuit dogs in the canine cross race placed 6th and 1st, the former a dog from Akna Kennnels and the latter a British Inuit bred by Shoshone Kennels and trained by Akna Kennels. Although not officially recognized by The Kennel Club, Northern Inuits are eligible to be registered in The Kennel Club's Companion Dog Club and participate in some performance events, including agility and obedience. They are ineligible for sled dog mushing events or pulling a rig (wheeled sled), as only purebred Kennel Club-registered dogs can be entered in these." http://en.wikipedia....thern_Inuit_Dog I don't understand why there is any confusion, that clearly states they are not recognized. Wikipedia also doesn't always get things right, its not a canine cross event, its cani-cross, and any breed or crossbreed can enter. Basically any dog can be registered in the KC's companion dog club and do agility etc, which is why you have a lot of collie crosses doing agility, flyball and other activities. Also, they can enter sled dog events, as there are open classes at most such events. Obviously they can't enter the purebreed classes, but then neither can alaskan huskies. I didn't suggest that you said it was a kennel club, but I just get frustrated when people pay loads of money for a crossbreed because it happens to be registered with some agency that has been set up by one person, or a group of people who have no interest in the health of those dogs or the future of the breeds involved. I must also state that I am not against cross breeds, until I got Sky, my first sibe, I had always had crosses, I have a few now, I love them just as much obviously as my pb dogs. The club that I'm chair of is very, very clear that all dogs are welcome, I don't differentiate or think that any dog is better than another because of their parentage. Which I guess explains why I do get so frustrated by people crossing dogs, and then calling them a made up name to make it seem as though they are something they are not. If you have a cross, just say its a cross, what does it matter? I love mutts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahNukka&Shadow Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 This has been very interesting reading and has enlightened me quite a lot. Thanks Kroush for your input. Much appreciated :g_cool: ......Ron I agree Ron very interesting indeed with all the info about the various wolf like crosses with husky in them! Fasinating! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Miss Bump Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 if we dont like cross breed names why do we use the term huskamute??? this isn't me being pick i am actually wondering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroush Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Point is to easily identify a breed with purebred parents of different breed- as their behaviour is much more predictable that just saying "I have a mutt." or "I have a mix" which is what I was getting at that being the point of the registry. I don't think it's to make money but to just set out a name so not everyone is calling it their own thing, just one, common recognizable name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arooroomom Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I think the names are funny, asinine, but funny. Doesn't bother me if someone wants to call their dog a cockapoo, just glad it's not my dog! Although, I do think the whole thing is a fad and would never participate in it at all. I don't see anything wrong with having a "registry" where the "accepted/official" names of these crossbreeds are. If these people are foolish enough to give into this crossbreed business, they've already gone too far to be saved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa (Fragglebabe) Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 interesting thread & Ron your boy is beautiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 if we dont like cross breed names why do we use the term huskamute??? this isn't me being pick i am actually wondering! its just easier than typing out husky cross malamute lol i just dont like the stupid x breed names lol labradoodle or a cockapoo n puggle n stuff like that its stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_426 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Call your dog Hulk turn into somet mad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidjk Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 When I am in the States there are always lots of adverts for Wolf hybreds. A few years ago there was quite a few available in the UK but there seem to be less and less now. I have met 3 Wolf hybreds in the UK and two of them were 50/50 Husky wolf both importef from the US. Both were really quite timid around people. meesh when i used to visit my nan in canada her neighbour had 2 husky x wolves they where fantastic animals very similar temperament to huskies, the owner never let them off of the lead though because they where part wolf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessmom Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Gerberian Shepsky? I think someone's having a laugh. I looked at the page and it seems like a bunch of dog people spent an evening at a bar making up the silliest names they could think of! No name for Border Collie x Sibe, so I'm going to call Milla a Border Husky. (I suppose she could just as easily be a Siberian Collie.) Maybe a Borderian Colsky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim&sky Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 @david i would rather have a Utonagan (no recent wolf DNA), than risk fresh wolf DNA (like the sarloos or the Czechoslovakian wolf crosses) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
princessmom Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 "so what would u call mine then ?? sarloos cross husky ? lol .............huskyroo maybe hehee" @Tim&sky, I think huskyroo is brilliant. What about Sarsky or Huloo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim&sky Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 "so what would u call mine then ?? sarloos cross husky ? lol .............huskyroo maybe hehee" @Tim&sky, I think huskyroo is brilliant. What about Sarsky or Huloo? lmao dont get me started hun be here all night lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanetez1 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 there is a place in devon that breeds the sarloos properly beautiful harmless and gentle creatures we were going to go and check them out but warning people now they dont allow you one of these pups easily you and your home will be checked inch by inch not because the sarloos are high risk! but because of the high maintenance of the breed similar to the huskys but yet different. personally i find them a more chilled breed then the husky and very sensitive. i think there fab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbb23 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Really great info given guys! x x x x x x x Thanks every one for your input. :g_cool: I was just wondering if they had a name out of curiosity. I totally agree with what has been said by Sarah and Nixy. To me he is just beautiful bundle of fun and mischief mixed together and I would not have him any other way.:happy: ........Ron Awww thats so lovely to hear Ron x x x x x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maya-n-Bisco Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 my first two huskys were german huskys. they were 75 husky 25 german shepherd. they looked full blooded though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauraxxx29 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I did read somewhere About the white husky had white German Shephard thats how you got white husky ???? Has anyone else heard or read this. My Willow Is Husky on mums side and collie on dad side so would i call her Huskollie......lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kroush Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 The White German Shepherd Dog is actually becomming a separated and entirely different breed from the GSD, similar to the history of the West Highland Terrier and their original breed, the Cairn Terrier. The WGSD actually predates and was the foundation of the common day GSD, however, the white colouration became undesirable as it was though to be associated with medical defects. It was then disqualified and breeders attempted to breed it out of the GSD. However, some breeders still wished to restore the original WGSD and doing so, they became separated from the GSD and have developed slightly different traits, physically and in temperament. These are bred with the recessive genes carried by the GSD and they have not been bred with Siberian Huskies. The WGSD is considered a rare breed. http://rarebreed.com/breeds/whiteshep/whiteshep.html http://www.awsaclub.com/faq.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Shepherd_Dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerberian Shepsky Mummy Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Gerberian Shepsky is what my Siberian Husky cross German Sheppard is called Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 The White German Shepherd Dog is actually becomming a separated and entirely different breed from the GSD, similar to the history of the West Highland Terrier and their original breed, the Cairn Terrier. The WGSD actually predates and was the foundation of the common day GSD, however, the white colouration became undesirable as it was though to be associated with medical defects. It was then disqualified and breeders attempted to breed it out of the GSD. However, some breeders still wished to restore the original WGSD and doing so, they became separated from the GSD and have developed slightly different traits, physically and in temperament. These are bred with the recessive genes carried by the GSD and they have not been bred with Siberian Huskies. The WGSD is considered a rare breed. http://rarebreed.com/breeds/whiteshep/whiteshep.html http://www.awsaclub.com/faq.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Shepherd_Dog I have a White GSD Echo. She is the perfect protector and guard dog. She will make anyone who is not 'Family' Back off. This is her natural temperament and has not been trained into her. It takes a long time and lots of patient exposure to socialise her with a 'New' person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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