Stormy Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I've been Reading up on both I already have a Halti for Logan as he came with it and he walks great on it. I can't handle shadows pulling anymore and I know even if I get a halti or canny collar for him I'm going to have to spend some one on one time with him to train him on it and then hopefully will be able to walk both withou shadow dragging us lol but what I want to know is which do you all prefer? I prefer the look of the canny collar I don't know if I'd change Logan from the halti as it doesn't bother him only every now and then he rubs his head on a bush or in grass lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 i prefer the canny collar - not used a halti mind - but ive seen people who use them n its risen up into the dogs eyes (probably not fitted correctly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Logans never rises up to his eyes buy he has got a slight mark from where it sits on his nose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 hmm yeh like i said the 1s ive seen probs havent been fitted correctly it did look quite big on the dog i saw it on. the canny doesnt leave marks either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted February 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 That's good I think I'm going to order a canny tomorrow I can always try Logans halti on shadow also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cas Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I've used both and definately prefer the canny collar and so do Storm and Mya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormchaser09 Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 I tried the halti on Storm and one size was too small and next size was too big, where as the canny is adjustable. We don't use it all the time as we are actively trying to get her to walk on a fairly loose lead. but on wooded areas she goes nuts so we use it then or in busy places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 what size would anyone say is best for the canny for nanuk because were thinking about getting a size 4 which says its for golden retrievers etc and nanuk isnt huge we got him a size 3 halti but hes cut his nose open twice and it does seem to go over his eyes sometimes and i prefer the way the canny goes round the back of the head instead of the side lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormchaser09 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I took Storm into Pets at Home and tried the Halti types including their own brand but none fitted, I certainly wouldn't need a retreiver size for storm as she is quite slender, just checked and it is a size4 but we have it on the tightest fitting at the moment as she has lost all her fluffy undercoat. When she is in full coat we loosen it a notch or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Angel n Auroras Mum Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Storm has a size 4 canny. it does leave marks on the face. he tries to get it off by rubbing his face in my crotch! embarrasing! but we are starting to take it off halfway home and he walks by my side with a slack lead. wouldnt say it stops pulling totally but it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Going to order today where did you orderyours from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceybob Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 The halti is a good idea, but it's concept of it gentley closing the mouth and getting them to heel is a bit different from what its like in practice. Because the dogs walk to the side of us, it pulls the halti to the side causing it to tighten at an angle. This how quite often you see them riding into the dogs eyes. Haltis will not rise into the dogs eyes if you train them to walk on a halti though, not like these people that just think you clip it on and off you go where they normally report that it "kind of helps" when in actual fact they are just letting the dog pull their faces off. So in my opinion, haltis are good if you use them properly. Canny collars are good, however if you have a dog that will try to paw it off their face very quickly, they will get it off their nose very easily if they want to as it's litrally just a band of nylon webbing over their nose (nylon webbing is very strong, but they can paw it off their nose by sliding it down their muzzle). Though you wont lose the dog if they get that band off, it will just return into the collar position, where as the halti is built to stay in the muzzle shape. Canny collars will give you control from the back of the head which people find is easier to guide their dogs. Thats my thoughts on them anyway. Stacey xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Storm has a size 4 canny. it does leave marks on the face. he tries to get it off by rubbing his face in my crotch! embarrasing! but we are starting to take it off halfway home and he walks by my side with a slack lead. wouldnt say it stops pulling totally but it helps. nanuk does that to me or as soon as he sees a bush or a tree or a pile of leaves he rolls around in them it looks well daft most of the time he sticks his whole body in a bush and starts scraping his face on it but he cant get it off lol the only problem is he keeps cutting his nose open hes done it twice now i dont know if he does it when trying to paw it off or if he scrapes it on the concrete i guess il just have to watch him and see how he does it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I've ordered shadow a canny collar will see how we get on I might get Logan one to but at the moment he does fine on his halti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowpup Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Just for future referance I would always recomend a dogmatic, they are fantastic! Only downside is they are a bit on the pricey side. They are basically like a halti head collar but they have fleace padding and a few diffirences usually made of leather. I've heard nothing but praise about them. I use a halti for Yuri and it doesn't ride up but he does try to bat it. I couldn't walk two dogs at once, not after today I tried it. But Yuri walks perfectly on his halti. I don't need it for Flynn aparently as he doesn't pull and walks loose lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I've ordered shadow a canny collar will see how we get on I might get Logan one to but at the moment he does fine on his halti you got any tips on the halti how long did it take to get used to it cos weve only had nanuks for a few days but hes had it on quite alot but still tries to get it off and he just doesnt seem to realise that its on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Angel n Auroras Mum Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 nanuk does that to me or as soon as he sees a bush or a tree or a pile of leaves he rolls around in them it looks well daft most of the time he sticks his whole body in a bush and starts scraping his face on it but he cant get it off lol the only problem is he keeps cutting his nose open hes done it twice now i dont know if he does it when trying to paw it off or if he scrapes it on the concrete i guess il just have to watch him and see how he does it. I have to watch Storm all the time, I stop him from sticking his head in bushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowpup Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yuri tries to get his off. What I do is use a double ended training lead. I put one end on his actual collar ring and the other end on the head collar. I hold them both in the hand of the side I want him to walk on and if he tries to bat it off I just say leave and hold the collar part up right so he has to stand up properly (not hard just gentily). Works pretty well. He rubs on bushes, grass etc, but they say they get used to it after a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yuri tries to get his off. What I do is use a double ended training lead. I put one end on his actual collar ring and the other end on the head collar. I hold them both in the hand of the side I want him to walk on and if he tries to bat it off I just say leave and hold the collar part up right so he has to stand up properly (not hard just gentily). Works pretty well. He rubs on bushes, grass etc, but they say they get used to it after a while. il just have to get him used to it i guess lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowpup Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 If he doesn't like it perhaps you could try fleace padding it? I'm useless with a sewing machine but if your not you could try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I don't know we got Logan already trained on it they said they had a professional dog trainer train him on it who also tried to train him offload which didn't work lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 blaze has a size 4 too lil tip for u all if they try to get it off lift the lead up - it stops them getting it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted March 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 I ordered shadow a size 4 hopefully it fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaves to kaya Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 we use canny collars now size 4 for beef cake spirit and a 3 for dainty kaya I have never looked back since the day we got them, hope you love yours too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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