Marley & Lumikkis Mummy Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I have some bad news Re Loki I have spoken to the vet at the dogs home and he has been on a drip overnight. Some very strong antibiotics but there is no improvement and she said he appears to have gone more downhill if anything. He is no longer capable of standing up and they dont think his ammune system is able to cope with his illness. Even with the help of all the medication so it looks like he will be PTS :( Im devastated that he was just left really to get into this state. I asked them about information I had read and pointed out they should have told me and they have admitted that he should never have been up for adoption the state he was in. They also admitted that they should have told me about the illness he had been treated for and that they had made a mistake. That mistake has caused a lot of upset in our family but not a lot I can do now. I am having to ring on Sunday when the manager is back because they are saying that I am not entitled to a refund of my adoption fee (£70) and that I would be given a credit note to adopt another dog. Im not happy at all about that because we went up there because we had specifically heard about him and how thin he was and with being a sibe ect.... we didnt just happen upon him whilst looking. Im not bothered if they want to offer me the equivalent in products as they sell crates and stuff too but they arent sure if thats possible. Lets hope it is possible under the circumstances or I will not be a happy person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Huskies 3 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Really sorry to hear about poor Loki sounds like he would have got the best home in the world, if the vets / kennels hadn't scr****d it up and broken so many hearts with him still not being 100% to be rehomed x Lots of husky huggs coming your way x x x x x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich & Kody Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So sorry thats just terrible. Have to say i've never been to MDH yet i've heard nothing but bad reviews of the place. Hate thinking about dogs being pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIMMY 66 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 omg so sorry to hear this poor boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 poor loki - so sorry hun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemary Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 That is so sad for Loki, poor boy. I would definitely fight them for your money back. They were at fault, they must rectify it. I would tell them that if you or anyone in your family, including Marley get ill, you will be contacting your lawyer. They MUST be held accountable, and to withhold your adoption fee is a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Tao&Sky Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I'm sorry to hear this bad news. Just stick to your guns as you deserve a full refund. Is there not any way of warning other people about there negligence as that is what it sounds like to me. ...............Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austinville Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Oh Suzanne, I'm so sorry.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvinandmommy Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Aww this makes me so sad. Poor Loki. Im sorry that all this is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowpups Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Aww sorry to hear this hun. I feel so sorry for him poor boy and hopefully they will stop his suffering. I can't believe they rehomed him when they knew he wasn't well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saffmonster Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I'm really sorry to hear this Suzane. Sending love and hugs to you and your family xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrs_aggie Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I'm so sorry hun, thats terrible xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Tao&Sky Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Suzanne I think you should read this............Ron http://www.google.co...D0vBdnyTCGs2CQw Parvo or is it Campylobacter? Campylobacter is a form of food poison. It can be passed from people to dogs and then back to people again. It is also referred to as "Show Crud" as it is very common in show dogs. This disease is becoming more wide spread. As the winter begins to pass into early spring each year, a new wave of deaths occur from this. And each year, the question comes up again: "Is this a new strain of Parvo?" and each time there are 100 different replies. This disease is so similar to Parvo, that some dogs have tested in the low positive for Parvo. In most cases they DO NOT have Parvo and it has been recommended that three Parvo tests are needed to exclude Parvo. This disease seems to move from the West to the East through the dog shows. It is medically known as CAMPYLOBACTERIOSIS, the name of the organism causing this is Campylobacter Jejuni. This disease can be tested for specifically, though some vets don't know about it. Bring it to their attention that you might have an effected dog that appears to have Parvo, but in your mind know that could not be possible, have them tested for Campylobacter. It is important to note that this disease can be transferred between humans, dogs, cats and other livestock. Many vets today are reporting that a cure for Parvo has been established when they actually are treating and curing Campylobacter and don�t realise it. The Campylobacter Jejuni is a Gram-Negative, slender curved, and motile rod. It is a species of bacteria that resembles small tightly coiled spirals. Its organisms are known to cause abortion in sheep and fever and stomach inflammation in man and may be associated with enteric diseases of calves, lambs and other animals. A genus of bacteria found in the reproductive organs, intestinal tract and oral cavity of animals and man. Some species are pathogenic. It is a microaerophilic organism, which means it has a requirement of reduced levels of oxygen. It is relatively fragile and sensitive to environmental stresses (e.g. 21% oxygen, drying, heating, disinfectants and acidic conditions). It causes more disease than Shigella spp and Salmonella spp combined. (Taken from the US FDA "Bad Bug Book") It is also known as Campylobacter enteritis or gastroenteritis. It can also be diagnosed as Sirochete or Giardia diarrhoea. TESTING: Diagnosis is direct fecal on a VERY fresh (still warm, so bacteria are still alive) sample, mixed with saline and examined microscopically. There is usually a decrease in normal bacterial numbers and motility. Blood testing will result in the low positive for Parvo. Tests are not conclusive, so if a low Parvo test is shown start treatment immediately! INCUBATION TIME: Its incubation period is reported to be anywhere from 2 to 10 days. SYMPTOMS: These can mimic parvo. The diarrhoea does not always have the foul odour. It usually progresses as follows. Begins with mucus-covered solid stools, loose stools, progresses to diarrhoea, profuse diarrhoea, the squirts, depressed appetite with or without vomiting. The diarrhoea may be watery or sticky and can contain (but not always) blood. These symptoms can be minor to severe. Some animals hardly show any symptoms, while others can become fatally dehydrated. Also seen are temperature drops and shock followed by death and all within 12-24 hours. In very young puppies you will hear them cry quite loudly and nothing will comfort them, then respiratory problems occur. Puppies need attention immediately as the fatality rate is high SOURCE OF INFECTION: Fecal matter, non-chlorinated water, such as streams, ponds or puddles ' food poisoning from food or from a human who has food poison, even a light case. This disease can also be transmitted to these areas by our common fly, flitting from one host to another. The bacteria is also found in raw or under cooked meat (barfers be aware please) . For all intents and purposes for the Dog Show Crud, it is transmitted in public X-Pens and public elimination areas. Some also say through urine, saliva via contact, or through the air. This bacteria reproduces at a rapid rate. TREATMENT. As soon as any of the symptoms are seen, see your vet immediately for the proper tests, because the disease progresses so rapidly. Re-hydration may be required within a few hours of the onset. This is the worst scenario. It could be that the dog will have a very mild case and be treated at home with anti-diarrhoeal medication and antibiotics but it is not worth it to take the chance. Most cases are not as drastic/catastrophic, clinically as Parvo if treatment is done in a timely manner. The younger the dog the more serious the case. Drugs for treatment are Tetracycline, Erythromycin and some have had success using Cephalexin. (In humans you will also see fever, abdominal pain, nausea, headache and muscle pain. This illness usually occurs 2-5 days after ingestion of contaminated food or water and up to 10 days after. Illness generally lasts 7-10 days, but relapses are not uncommon. Most infections are self- limiting and are not treated with antibiotics. However, treatment with Erythromycin does reduce the length of time that infected individuals shed the bacteria in their faeces.) Many veterinarians have recommended that if you have a dog with diarrhoea, cramping, vomiting, etc., and has been to a dog show, camping, groomer, park, or any public place, or if any one in your family has been ill with diarrhoea or food poison like symptoms, etc., that the dog be seen by your vet as soon as possible to diagnose the problem and treat it accordingly. (Footnote: If only one dog in your household has been affected ALL dogs in the house should be treated together) Afghan Health Index Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 If you want me to drive you over there on sunday let me know - we can go and have very strong words with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.partridge Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Oh that's so sad, I'm sorry xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley & Lumikkis Mummy Posted May 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Thanks Sarah I appreciate that. Ron, thats the link I got information from last night, this scares me Puppies need attention immediately as the fatality rate is high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peach Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 It makes me really sad to read this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight82 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So sorry...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lebe03 Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 So sorry to hear this news about Loki and the affect that MDH's incompetence has had on your family. I would personally consider contacting the RSPCA and environmental health department of Manchester Council regarding the danger that they've exposed you all to. Still have fingers crossed that Loki is able to recover from this although this doesn't sound feasible at this stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tan J P Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 i'm so sorry for you and your family Suzanne,and poor Loki too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valkyries Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 so sad that poor lil boy xxxxxxxxxxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqwidge Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 hugs hun, that's really sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceybob Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Im so sorry to hear this. Poor Loki... I think not allowing your adoption fee back should be completely out of the question! They are in the wrong and they should admit to that by giving you your funding back! Stacey xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renniwano Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I am so sorry to hear the situation you are in and the news on Loki.. but I would be extremely concerned about the way the guys you adopted from have treated you.. by offering you a credit note it is no different to taking a game back to a shop because it doesn't work or a dress back because it doesn't fit.. If someone offered me a credit note for a dog i'd have rescued i'd be half inclined to offer them a piece of my mind in return.. and a note explaining that the way they are running the rescue will be taken up with your local welfare officers.. How dare they treat dogs like a commodity.. they are supposed to be rescuing them.. I really hope that everything goes well with Loki and that he pulls through.. huge hugs hun Xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryRoad Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I am so sorry to hear that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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