Sarah Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 This makes me sick! My brother will one day, when my parents can no longer care for him, end up in a place like this and this scares me so much that he could be treated this way.......i hope the people the arrested are severely punished for the misery they've inflicted! These people they have hurt will probably have no idea why they're being victimized. It saddens me beyond belief http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13548222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyshqa Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Watched that program last night and woke up to this news that they've been arrested. Bloody too right! Sick b*****ds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon&Sophia Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 youd be suprised how much this happens google Holly Greig for a story along similar lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 it is sick what these people do I hope they go to prison for it! they deserve too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutsibe Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Awww, Sarah, I hope that when the time comes, you can find a place where he will thrive, and where you can have confidence they'll treat him well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurchybold Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Fortunately not all are the same as this place was. What makes me sick is when they interview the bosses of the people who are supposed to keep an eye on these places and all they can say is "yes it was an oversight" or "yes we missed this happening" " it wont happen again". The troubl is when tey go to inspect these places they book an inspection date with the home derrrr!!! Why can they not have undercover people that can go and do what Panarama did, surely it's not difficult !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Sick Bastards! Cowards to! they wouldn't dare to do that to someone who could fight back! They deserved to be beaten up! Someone needs to do to them what they did to those innocent people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 :eek: :mad: thats horrible! im glad they were arrested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazz Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 How terrible. It's a step in the right direction if those responsible were arrested, but it's also very important that something be done to prevent this type of treatment. People, no matter what their physical or mental state, do not deserve to be treated this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceybob Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 We havent watched this yet, but intend to tonight as we were going to last night. Stacey xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahNukka&Shadow Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Speachless and disgusted! Although I have to say I have family who work in the industry and where they work the people are respected, assisted and treated with the dignity they deserve so I have to sumise that these scum are in the minority with their behaviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #1 Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Unfortunately not all people who work in this particular field are in it to do some good. I spent a decade working with juveniles in a residential setting. There were some cases over the years of abuse, but the fact that here you can be prosecuted for NOT reporting abuse when you're working in this field goes a long way in motivating people to do the right thing. One of the larger troubles with monitoring staff behavior is that in a lot of instances supervisors aren't on the premises and you have to get special permission from the state to utilize cameras in a residential setting, as its an invasion of the rights of persons served to do so without a clearly documented reason. If you attempt to use the justification that its to prevent abuse by staff, there are some serious eyebrows raised and further questions about your screening process for new employees and its failures come under scrutiny. Again I don't know what its like over here, but for that particular job here in the states your looking at a starting wage between minimum wage and up to two dollars over it. The training offered is often minimal and doesn't prepare the staff for some of the trials they're going to face...the end result is often frustration and horrible judgement lapses because of a basic lack of understanding in regards to the basic mental process and capacity for responding to things like change, etc. For example, in this video I did notice that there didn't seem to be any sort of basic structure in place. There were no schedules posted...picture or otherwise, the walls were white and lacking any sort of pictures (plexiglass is surprisingly difficult to break, theres no reason that it should look so institutional). It looks as if the staff have little or no training in basic behavior modification techniques, nonphysical or physical intervention and in my opinion Castlebeck is just as strongly to blame as the individuals committing the crime. I'm glad they were arrested, not so glad they're out on bail. I realize that its a difficult decision for any family to place a loved one into an out of home placement...parents particularly. Its a very rough realization to accept that you aren't whats best for your child and I really do have to admire those whose family members struggle so hard to ensure they have the best life possible. Sarah, I know you mentioned that this sort of setting is a distant possibility for a family member when your parents are older and without knowing how the system works over there...I can't do more than give a few generalities as far as what to look for and questions to ask. What training does the staff go through to support the people they serve? How often is training renewed? (Your looking for more than just basic CPR and medication administration training...your going to want a place that trains their staff on the specific mental health diagnosis held by your loved one) Abuse reporting procedures? Is there a behavior specialist with a degree who oversees and gets input from staff and the person served for over coming particularly challenging or unsafe behaviors? Do they work with families on a regular basis for input? When was the facility last licensed? What sort of things are reviewed during a licensing process? Is there regular community access? What are the rights of my family member? How do they differ from an adult whose not living in a treatment setting? Make sure you get a look at the environment they'll be staying in. Are there pictures on the walls? Do the other persons served have things like posters of what they're interested or family pictures where they can see them? Do the other residents seem at ease and comfortable around the staff? In the case of Autism: Is there a general structure to the way things go? What plans do they have in place for when an unexpected change in the schedule comes up? Is the general structure posted in a way thats accessible to persons served? Is the agency willing to incorporate things that the family knows works for the individual into their normal household routine? What is the complaint/appeals process for filling concerns? Thats all I got off the top of my head, but hopefully you get the general idea...any agency that isn't honest or open about any of the above things really ought to be crossed off the list of ideal placements. Any agency that balks at questions about how they select staff should probably be reported...because that sort of thing really ought to be an open book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charley Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 So glad these sick people have been arrested - hope they go to prison for it for a loonnnggg time, it's what they deserve!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 @foxsfamily thanks for the post really informative xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val (Zebedee) Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 wow - I never heard the story before I read your post then saw it on the 10 o'clock news tonight, the Panorama footage was sickening I really hope our wonderful Justice system actually deals out a punishment fitting the crime, they are assaulting defenceless individuals who have no concept of what or why it is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeppurple Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 I vote that cameras are everywhere for the safety of people in care because this is very common! If not abuse then neglect.............. I worked in a private care home 12 years ago for a year......... I was shocked beyond believe and although I myself would love to stay employed in that kind of environmet i just could not tolerate keeping my gob shut and so get called a trouble maker! these cowards will rot in a form of hell I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceybob Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Ok we just watched it and I've just balled my eyes out crying with Robyn. It was horrible to see, I feel sorry for all of those people and feel so angry that carers are getting away with this kind of thing. I would write more, but I dont think my thoughts/expression on this would go down well on a family forum... you get the idea of how I feel though. Stacey xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 This makes me sick! My brother will one day, when my parents can no longer care for him, end up in a place like this and this scares me so much that he could be treated this way.......i hope the people the arrested are severely punished for the misery they've inflicted! These people they have hurt will probably have no idea why they're being victimized. It saddens me beyond belief http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13548222 My eldest son Callum (7) has aspergers and to be frank if this ever happens to him the police wont need to get involved as i will sort it myself. These people are pure scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austinville Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I pray that when the time comes that you need to find a place for your brother that you can find one that you trust. As more and more of this type of abuse comes out, those doing it will begin to understand that there are those willing to fight for these patients rights. While it seems logical to wish this type of abuse on the individuals doing it, I'd like to relay a tale that my receptionist told me just the other day. Tammy is nearly deaf, and wears hearing aids. Because of this disability, her speech is not always perfect. During high school, classmates were particularly cruel. She told me that she'd been uptown when one of her former classmates - who had been very cruel to her - came up to her and began apologizing for what he'd done. When she asked why he was apologizing now, he informed her that his son has a hearing problem and is the butt of jokes and teasing, that his classmates are very cruel to him. What a difficult way to learn a lesson, but it is one that the classmate needed to learn and I'm glad he had the guts to apologize to Tammy's face. As she said when we talked - better late than never. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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