derekvan Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 just wondering if anyone else on here has any seppala siberians? if so post a pic! heres juno, shes 6 months now. (after giving her a good brushing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 omg her markings are almost identical to Keyusha's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husky princess Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 i know several seppala owners, where did you get yours from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahNukka&Shadow Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 Awwww shes stunning! Are you going to work her? Bet she'll be a little firecracker! Would LOVE a team of Seppalas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekvan Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 i live in vernon bc canada right now, she is originally from north of dawson creek bc, and in a few weeks i am moving to smithers bc good northish climate for her... i do not know of any other seppala owners around here tho... and only one person i have talked to knew what a seppala was.. everyone else thinks shes a husky x german shepard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 skyla has seppalta (or something like that) in her lines which i think is a form of seppala sibe? - shes quite tall for a female at 24 inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekvan Posted June 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 and yes, she's definately gonna be bikejoring, and would love to get a scooter! and im sure i'll get into skijoring too... I WANT MORE SEPPALAS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husky princess Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 im sure the majority of huskys have sep in their lines if you go back far enough. Gonna need lots of working, they have a reputation for getting bored quick, requiring lots of exercise, recovering from exercise and are of a much slimmer build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 im sure the majority of huskys have sep in their lines if you go back far enough. . yeh probs - skyla has it quite early on in her pedigree tho where as blaze doesnt have any in his 5gen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopeak Posted June 12, 2011 Report Share Posted June 12, 2011 According to the ISSSC dogs need to be 15/16 to qualify as Seppala Siberian Sleddogs, who is your dogs breeder? http://www.seppalas.com/page4.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheppard-Valli Huskies Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 OMG I WOULD LOVE TO GET A SEPPALA!!!!!....my next dog...*fingers crossed* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staceybob Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Okay... I'm a bit behind. I've never heard of Seppala Siberians, so can someone fill me in? That website has too much info trying to explain what one is and it's just confusing me ='D Stacey xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Okay... I'm a bit behind. I've never heard of Seppala Siberians, so can someone fill me in? That website has too much info trying to explain what one is and it's just confusing me ='D Stacey xxx i THINK they are like some of the oldest sibes around n are super tall, slim and FAST - so much so i heard they arent actually allowed to race?? not sure if thats true tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheppard-Valli Huskies Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Okay... I'm a bit behind. I've never heard of Seppala Siberians, so can someone fill me in? That website has too much info trying to explain what one is and it's just confusing me ='D Stacey xxx In short the Musher Leonhard Seppala, is the guy who owned Togo..etc his dogs were part of the diptheria serum run.(wich is commemorated with the Iditarod) He is considered the founder of the Siberian Husky breed, but the Seppala Line specifically has been preserved for their working qualities like pulling and running. -- Also they are used for both working and raceing..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirbysowner Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 mmmm, sounds like kirby could have some sep in him, what the website says applies a lot to him, specially the size and weight. they arent supposed to be big and desired weight and height are 48lbs at 23 inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheppard-Valli Huskies Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 umm..... ...if your dog is a Siberian Husky at all...they are probably "PART" seppala...if you go WAAAY BACK. But they are now two different lines of Siberian husky that just orginated from the same starting point. So they are kinda the same.....but if you were to compare it to Humans it's like being Dutch and German.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangled-musher Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 there are a few dogs that have sepp in them in the uk lines. but very few are pure seppala! sibes as you know come in many builds and sizes, from chunky, short legged american showy type lines to slinky sleek smaller built dogs, to larger big built dogs. we have sepp's here that we work and race in our kennel, all are at least 85% seppala with some zero in them as well. the markovo kennel is one of the most famous seppala kennels as well as the sepp-alta kennel, you might find if you go far enough back into your dogs pedigree's we have gone back to 1947 in our sepp-dogs) that dogs in the uk have 'some' seppala bloodlines WAYYYYYYYYYYYY back somewhere. the dad of our pups is 100% seppala, the mum, our own bitch lolly has a mix of seppala/zero/kayak lines. The pups from our litter (which we bred to keep for our racing teams) range in size even in the same litter. kapik, very small skinny, fast lead dog, exceptional working ability! very very intelligent, very very tiny build. zoya, bit more chunky, leggy and sleek spitting image of her mum but with diferent coloured eyes to mum, command leader, full of mischeif and very quick, never ever gives up pulling! and panik, big girl, all muscle - never an ounce of fat on her, larger features awesomely strong very much like her dad, will lead but can get sefl conscious at times in lead. the two boys, tsula and herbie are very similar to zoya but with tighter tail sets. again very strong, quick dogs! their dad is out of the kazachye - seppfire bloodlines. they might sound ideal working dogs, but.... sepps arnt for everyone! very very intelligent, out and out working dogs with imense! working and athletic abilities, they are, with the zero lines NOT good as pet dogs, first huskies or for non working homes, these bloodlines are TRUE atheletes!!!! these guys are like your average sibe, but with10 x MORE energy, they have two settings... full-on! or asleep and nothing in between! often have very loud voices they like using.. all the time!!! zoya never shuts up!!! of the 8 dogs we own and work, the 4 yearlings on my A-team, the sepps and zeros, are by far the hardest working, fastest things on 4 legs i have ever had the pleasure to work with. on the one occasion we had one of them get free from us, we had a lead clip snap on us ( italian brass clip - must have been a faulty one as was brand new, these generaly are top quality and never snap!) lolly, the mum at 6 years old took off down a beach and went up against a greyhound, the greyhound and her took off playing as we tried to get her to recall (yeah right! like she was gonna listen!!!) she and the grey hound took off running towards us, lolly was leaping and bouncing as the greyhound was at full speed, then put her head down started sprinting and she left it like it was standing still!!! the owner was gobsmacked at her pace and her beating a greyhound without trying! (we DO NOT condone off lead walking with siberians, this was an accident!!!). there is a reason our dogs will run, on average, faster than your average dog, even in harness whilst working! the seppala siberian is a specialist dog and not one you will readily find for sale by repuatable breeders unless they and you are active in the working/racing scene in the UK and are well known to them, beware of imitations!!! just because it has one sepp-alta dog way back in its bloodline, does not make it a seppala, but you'll be surprised by the folk who will try and sell you one through the free ads/internet/etc as a seppala. for instance, a ford car with a ferrari wheel nut does not make it a ferrari sports car! i dont know about the canada situation, but i know they are few on the ground out there as well and i believe carefuly bred. the seppala site link snopeak posted is a good start to research this particular bloodline. bingblaze - yes, they can race and are not restricted to any class or any restrictions regaurding their bloodline and heritage. you might be thinking of the zero lines which are restricted in the BSHRA events. politics and a loooong story, i wont go into here. bit of a miss-nomer but leonard seppala didnt found the breed, they have exisited as one of the 14 accient breeds for over 4'000 - 30'000 years. he was credited with bringing some of the first dogs out of siberia during the gold rush in alaska for racing in the all alaska sweepstakes, which he won many times and held many records over. he had seen a few of the breed in alaska that had made their way across the frozen sea ice in years gone past and was impressed with their working abilities and himself crossed the bering sea to purchase some dogs from the chukchi inuit of eastern siberia penisula. togo was a lead dog from his kennel that ran in the serium run. if im right at his height he had between 60 - 200 dogs in hsi kennel. his team from the serium run ended up being sold off and spent their days traveling around the USA in buffalo bills circus before ending up in a zoo in i think boston. there they were rescued to live out their days in comfort although only a few by then has survived out of the team of nearly 20 dogs. i think dorothy page was the women who resuced them but i cant quite remember. i know she was a founder, along with joe redington snr of the iditarod sled dog race. hope thats of some interest to you. matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekvan Posted June 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 well put tangled musher... to simplify.. the seppala was a wild village dog that the chutki used as working dogs in the winter, and they would fend for themselves in the summer.... require very little food, work very hard, and are very tough, but they absolutely love people.. seppala got ahold of these dogs and wasted everyone in racing, theres some funny stories if you really do your research... one time going against a team that was known as unbeatable, he sat back in his sled and smoked a cigar, and totally beat them... where the average siberian husky is bread for looks and show(but still a good hard sled puller), the seppala's markings have no effect in the breeding process.. as said above, they are not suited at all for someone who will not work them... and yeah... once they start running..... they do not stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemary Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 What a great informative post Matt, thanks I would love to see a Seppala husky run, I know it was an accident, but it must have been awesome seeing your husky race against the Greyhound - wow. Would love to see some photos of your pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutsibe Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I believe you're right about Dorothy Page rescuing the dogs, @tangled-musher... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qonos Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Seppala's are Siberian Huskies that have tried to maintain desirable working traits, and to maintain a pure line. There are many dogs with a Sepp in their pedigree this does not make them a Sepp! We have 4 pure Sepps and 7 high % Sepps and 8 part Sepps. They are our pets, but they are also worked in Harness. There are several kennels in the UK with pure Sepps, but you won't see pups advertised from these kennels on the internet, as most people went to a lot of trouble and expense to import a lot of them into the country, it's highly unlikely any will end up being in BYB's pedigrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laine Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 I've owned a Seppala (an "of Seppalta" dog), and hope to have another this fall of the same line. It depends on, I think, where you get your Seppala from, what the breeder's done with the dogs, the lines/temperments and, like everything else, how you train your dog. I've met Seppala's that are quiet when not working, shy, would rather kick back and relax in the sun or just sit regally and watch things happen. I've also met Seppala's that are high energy "runplayrunplay" and be loudmouth crazy dogs; but both types are serious work dogs when in harness, even the shy one and the crazy one. I've seen pictures of cats curled up around a Seppala male, fast asleep and some even on him. I've seen his sister mother cats and not do a thing to them and neither had ever seen cats until they were older dogs. I've also seen young teenage type dogs stare at cats like they're lunch and bark at them just for them sitting in a window. Seppala's are, really, a varied type dog just like any other breed. I agree with Qonos; there's been a lot of discussion on just what a Seppala is and why it should be thought of as something "different" from your normal Sibe. You might have Seppala's in your ped for your dog, but that won't make it a Seppala, and, way back, there's a little Seppala in every Siberian. "Today's Seppala dogs are at least in the paper the direct descendents of the dogs that were owned and bred by Harry Wheeler and Donnie McFaul, who operated during the period 1930 - 1963 and were called Seppala Kennels. All their Siberians carried the suffix "...of Seppala" in their registered names." - Doug Willett "It is easy to define what we mean by Seppala strain. It consists of Siberian stock that descends wholly (not just mostly) from either Leonhard Seppala's dogs or from Siberia import stock, and which has been traditionally and continuously selected only for working sleddog capacity -- not for the show ring." - J.J. Bragg I think those interested in the Seppala will recognize those two names; if not, look them up and you can read what each man sees the Seppala as. They are the two leading men who helped to continue the Seppala Siberian when the line (or breed or strain or however you want to see them) was close to being quite possibly wiped out. The only unfortunate thing is they had a "falling out" (mild way to put it I guess) and went their separate ways with their own ideas of how to perpetuate the dogs. Currently, the only "breed club" for the Seppala is the ISSSC (US Based), as Mr. Bragg's breed club, the ISA (and his SSSD project; Canadian based) have ended. There is still information though for both the ISSSC and the SSSD out there via the ISSSC web site, as posted by snopeak, and by following this link to the pages tied in with the SSSD group http://www.seppalakennels.com/ . For myself, from what I've seen of Seppalas, they are a loyal dog, intelligent, driven and I think they have the capability to do anything if they're trained for it (a theory I'll test with my Seppala). I don't know how common or rare this would be, but my puppy, Arizona, at 4 months did something I never thought a pup (especially a Siberian pup) would do. I was out with a team and she was running with us. The team was stopped to rest but she kept going. When I called her, she stopped, turned to stare at me, and when I called her again, she ran all the way back to me, no stopping to sniff at anything, no distraction, nothing. Even on walks, she hated to be far from me and she was constantly looking at me for direction. From what I was told, the rest of her litter mates were the same. It's this kind of devotion that has hooked me into her line of dog (that, and I've always wanted a husky anyway). Eesh; sorry for being so long winded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangled-musher Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 dotn applogies, good post and interesting to hear what your sepp is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laine Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Tangled-musher - when I get my Sepp, the problem will probably be to get me to stop talking about him/her rather than sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekvan Posted June 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 i kindof have the same thing.. i take juno pretty much everywhere with me, but the odd time i have to get my parents to dog sit... apparently when im gone she whines and yelps and howls all day and night, and doesnt listen to anyone, but if she knows im in or around the house (she knows the sound of my car leaving), then she's totally quiet.. she still doesnt totally listen when playing with other dogs, but at the dog park she'll be playing for a while, stop and look around and not see me, and look for me. as soon as she finds me she's full tilt straight at me, gives me a lick, then takes off again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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