<3Jess<3 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 any news? hope ur hubby is okay and that the pup is still ok if they shot it grr would not be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow01 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Oh no, my thoughts and wishes are with you. I hope everything turns out to be ok and they do infact comply with the authorities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules dief taz tor Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 wow , hope your hubby is ok and please keep us updated , hope the pups still ok too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Ouch !!, never mind he was probably due a tetanus update anyway. . . :eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 WTF!? i hope ur hubby is ok - god i feel sorry for that pup if it WAS vacc - but tbh if the did shoot it u can pretty much garuntee it didnt have it shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Wolf Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Wow I hope things go ok for your hubby and I hope the poor pup didn't get the bullet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Thanks, everyone. :grouphug:You guys are the best! We'll see what the doc says later this morning. I just took Sarah out and didn't see the pup. Since he's allowed to run the neighborhood that's not unexpected but I'll feel better once I know what happened to him. I'll update when I know something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I hope your hubby recovers quickly and that your neighbours face the full weight of the law for this incident. Are there any laws governing the killing of an animal even your own in the US? I ask this because here in the UK you would be prosecuted for killing any animal unless you have the required authorisation to do so Whether an owner is subject to prosecution for killing an animal depends on what type of animal it is, the situation, the local and state laws in effect, etc. If, for example, an obviously rabid dog showed up in my yard and I shot it, or one of my kids was being attacked by a dog and I shot it, I wouldn't be prosecuted. It really just depends. But there's no blanket prohibition against killing an animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 WTF!? i hope ur hubby is ok - god i feel sorry for that pup if it WAS vacc - but tbh if the did shoot it u can pretty much garuntee it didnt have it shots I'm pretty sure the pup wasn't vaccinated. When we asked for the rabies certificate, the owner told us that he didn't get anything from the vet after the pup was given the shot. By law the vet has to provide both a rabies certificate and and rabies tag for the animal's collar, that I know for a fact. No way did the vet "forget" to give the owner those items. I went out looking for the pup a little while ago but no sign of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Interesting factoid I read: 50,000 people worldwide die of rabies each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazz Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 This is really developing into something. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me, that since the neighbor was aware that pup bit your husband, and the subject of rabies and the certificate came up in conversation, and assuming your husband has been to the doctor, therefore, some procedure toward quarantining the pup may have started, that if the pup's owner did in fact shoot the pup, that the pup's owner could be charged with impeding an ongoing investigation, or some other crime related to this matter. Let's hope the pup is still with us. Hope your husband heals quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 This is really developing into something. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me, that since the neighbor was aware that pup bit your husband, and the subject of rabies and the certificate came up in conversation, and assuming your husband has been to the doctor, therefore, some procedure toward quarantining the pup may have started, that if the pup's owner did in fact shoot the pup, that the pup's owner could be charged with impeding an ongoing investigation, or some other crime related to this matter. Let's hope the pup is still with us. Hope your husband heals quickly. I hope all is well with your husband. Unfortunately it does seem that the poor pup was not vaccinated. If they did shoot the pup then I hope they do get charged with impeding an ongoing investigation or made to produce the pup and ensure that he is guarantened and vaccinated. I doubt if they would be prepared to pay this though if the attitude in your area is that they are disposable commoditites and dogs are allowed to free roam in an area where rabies is present. Ultimately, he did bite your husband more than once and you may be in a position to sue them for this. I would do this if I thought they were thinking they could get away with this by shooting the dog. A few years ago a young GSD got out of its garden onto the back playing field and bit a child who was provoking him. The dog was destroyed and the owners were made to pay out a small fortune to the parents. They built a side extension to their house! Luckily for the owners they were insured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted July 16, 2011 Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I'm not a lawyer either, but have a reasonably good understanding of where to go looking and am normally able to bring the correct salient points to bear. I forget, exactly, what the law said but there were some strong penalties for impeding the investigation surrounding a dog bite. I would think that if they did shoot the pup then they would have shot it through the head which would completely eliminate the possibility of sending the brain (which would have been seriously contaminated) to the states lab for testing. I'm betting that they'll try to play the "he wasn't our dog, he just hung around here" card, which won't work too well if they've been feeding him. Again best of luck getting this resolved and my best wishes for a safe, fast recovery for the hubby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 Update: The doc gave Mitch antibiotics and a tetanus booster, and told him they would call DHEC (state health dept). Nothing was said about beginning treatment, so I called the DHEC after hours line and talked to a Doctor Somebody (didn't catch her name). She said that we have six weeks before treatment must begin if the pup is rabid, so I felt better. They'll be out Monday or Tuesday to begin the investigation. Still no sign of the puppy. I took Sarah outside to play, which always brings the pup to our yard, but no pup. Either they have it inside (unlikely) or that shot I heard was them shooting the pup. The DHEC people will find out which it is. The owner's girlfriend told me last night she doesn't want the pup inside because she's pregnant (very!) and the guy hasn't had the pup to the vet tobe wormed, etc. In light of that, I seriously doubt the pup is inside. But maybe. . .. Thanks so much for the well-wishes, everyone. I was pretty worried until I spoke to the DHEC doctor. The CDC needs to change their website to remove the "start treatment immediately if no proof of vaccination exists" statement--that had me totally confused after our doctor didn't even mention it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I hope all is well with your husband. Unfortunately it does seem that the poor pup was not vaccinated. If they did shoot the pup then I hope they do get charged with impeding an ongoing investigation or made to produce the pup and ensure that he is guarantened and vaccinated. I doubt if they would be prepared to pay this though if the attitude in your area is that they are disposable commoditites and dogs are allowed to free roam in an area where rabies is present. Ultimately, he did bite your husband more than once and you may be in a position to sue them for this. I would do this if I thought they were thinking they could get away with this by shooting the dog. A few years ago a young GSD got out of its garden onto the back playing field and bit a child who was provoking him. The dog was destroyed and the owners were made to pay out a small fortune to the parents. They built a side extension to their house! Luckily for the owners they were insured. I don't know about suing them myself but our health insurer is definitely going to go after the neighbor's homeowner's policy to cover Mitch's medical claims--that's standard practice. The neighbor's homeowner's insurance carrier will notify them that our health carrier is suing for medical, which will probably cause some bad blood but we have no control over that. <sigh> What a mess, and sooooooooooooooooooooo preventable. UGH! And the DHEC doctor agrees with you and I, @Biggles --the line about the vet not giving him a rabies tag probably means the pup was never vaccinated to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2011 I'm not a lawyer either, but have a reasonably good understanding of where to go looking and am normally able to bring the correct salient points to bear. I forget, exactly, what the law said but there were some strong penalties for impeding the investigation surrounding a dog bite. I would think that if they did shoot the pup then they would have shot it through the head which would completely eliminate the possibility of sending the brain (which would have been seriously contaminated) to the states lab for testing. I'm betting that they'll try to play the "he wasn't our dog, he just hung around here" card, which won't work too well if they've been feeding him. Again best of luck getting this resolved and my best wishes for a safe, fast recovery for the hubby. Thanks! It'll be interesting to see what happens if he did shoot the pup, I'm sure the state folks aren't going to be happy about that. Not to mention Mitch and me. I'll be sure to post what, if any, penalties he gets if he did shoot the pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Update: We didn't see the puppy at all yesterday, nor today. I'm about convinced they shot it. The people from the state will be around early this week, they should be able to determine what happened to it. Mitch is fine. His arm is still sore but he's going to be okay. We still don't know if he needs to have the rabies treatment but he's calming down about the possibility. What a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Wolf Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I'm hoping all gets sorted out and hope the pup is still alive, however from the sound of things it seems unlikely If they did shoot the little guy I sure hope something can be done to prove so and they have some legal issues about it. Keep us posted. Hope to hear good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 The pup is alive. Mitch saw the girl outside a few minutes ago and asked where it was. She said they've locked the pup in the house until he has had his vaccinations. He didn't ask if they were going to build a kennel or whatever. At this point Mitch was glad the pup wasn't shot so he has a good chance of not having to go through the rabies treatment. Whew! My questions are, why not make sure he's vaccinated when it should happen, and why let the pup run the neighborhood? But that's just me I guess. But at least the poor thing wasn't shot. Now to see what kind of fines, etc. they get for having an unvaccinated pup running loose, and whether or not Mitch has to have the rabies treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 glad to hear the pup is ok - i cant belive they didnt keep him locked in the house till he was full vacc anyway or atleast make sure the garden is secure ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow01 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 At least thats a good start that the pup is still alive. Did he see the pup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules dief taz tor Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 phew glad the puppys ok , and hopefully your hubby wont need the treatment xxxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<3Jess<3 Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 PHEW glad to hear the lil thing is okay <3 Hope all ur husbands results come back negative good luck keep us updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chevy Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I hope your hubby recovers quickly and that your neighbours face the full weight of the law for this incident. Are there any laws governing the killing of an animal even your own in the US? I ask this because here in the UK you would be prosecuted for killing any animal unless you have the required authorisation to do so Some states have animal cruelty laws that could be looked into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenamarie Posted July 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 At least thats a good start that the pup is still alive. Did he see the pup? No, he didn't see it. They just talked about it. The state folks will be the final word, I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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