Rich & Kody Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 Interesting read, Wasnt aware this was enforce in Wales. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-14181927 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 yep, been enforced here for over a year now.... i dont like these collars..... think they should be banned everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules dief taz tor Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 i didnt have a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Angel n Auroras Mum Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 serves him right, how would he like it on his neck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistyrayn Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 i dont like them either.. but didnt know it was illegal .. hopefully England will follow and ban them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicole Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 oh i didnt know this but i agree i think they should be banned aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husky princess Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 here here! complete ban needed raise the friggin fence lazy £$%&*" there would be outrage if it was put on a child...so why a dog, they feel pain too. HOWEVER i would personally love to put it on him and let him realise what pain he caused his dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Melsom Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I think owners who put shock collars on them dogs should wear them themselves If your too lazy to train your dog dont get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissu & Aara Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 I had a lady tell me the other day that I should get one for Kissuna. I told her there was no way those would work on an average husky. Next time someone tells me that I will tell them they're banned in other parts of the world. Or maybe if they catch me on an off day I will say something snide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 they need a world wide ban imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme&thepack Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 GOOD!! I'm glad he was fined they should have tied it round his c**k and shocked the crap out of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted July 18, 2011 Report Share Posted July 18, 2011 The cruelty of this defies words and its a shame he wasn't made to do some sort of community service as well as the fine. I can think of a few nice dog related chores e.g. picking up dog poo out of the local parks for a starter. If dogs are supposed to be man's best friend, I would hate to be an enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taiya Blue and Miko too Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Was really pleased when this ban was announced when I lived iin Wales but will be honest and say now i'm this side of the border it's one of those things i'd forgotten about. Should be totally banned everywhere I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Daily Mail has an article about this case. If you read the comments below some numbskulls can't see any problem with having these collars. What idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Hmmm... Not so sure...I heard about these and thought no way! So I did a bit of research... There are e-collars and e-fences which have variable controls, no more than a very small correction as a reminder rather than electrocuting the dog, with these small corrections not resulting in pain but rather a sensation. I've read different views on them, and that on their lowest settings there should be no problem with their use. As with all training tools, it is how that they are used that becomes the problem... I would NOT look to use these on Harley however. Just adding some thoughts. Best regards, Smiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 they played a video on the news of it being used a GSD that was chasing sheep.... they let the dog off lead in a field full of sheep and then when the dog run after the sheep they shocked it saying "ohh it dont hurt.... ect" but as soon as they shocked the dog it run off yelping in pain....... so i dont know how they can say it dont hurt :@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoseWillow&Dexter Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 oh wow, they should be banned everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondog Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Who the feck, endorses this shit in the first place. Why take this to Market? youdont have to be genious to realise this has no place on the shelves, and that merely by stating you stock an item like this would cause some knd of pro-animal backlash. Feckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #1 Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Electric collars that are used with invisible fences aren't really all that uncommon here. They're marketed as an ideal sort of thing for people who rent or can't afford to put up an actual fence in their yard to keep their dog secured. There was actually a thread on here a while back where a husky had made it 13 miles to a grocery store and back because their owners used an electric fence with her and it certainly didn't end up with this sort of backlash from the posters here...I couldn't see using an electric fence type collar with a husky or any breed that exhibits a strong desire to wander, high prey drive that happens to be quite good at the art of escape. Mostly because from the reviews and experiences of other people that I've read here and on the internet of dogs with those specific breed characteristics more or less sucking it up...and enduring the discomfort for as long as it takes to get past the barrier so that they can get to their goal...ie wandering/freedom/etc. In this particular instance I disagree with the use of the collar that the man was prosecuted for not on the basis of cruelty, but on the basis that it is illegal in that portion of the world. Additionally, if the dog has been picked up by animal control/dog wardens enough times for them to have identified it as 'the dog with the shock collar' by regular workers there then its obviously either failing as a training aid or not being used properly. Honestly though how much fault is with the man involved, and how much is the fault with the individuals who were supposed to be responsible for enforcing laws and looking out for animal safety? I'm really dissappointed that a blind eye was turned for so long and that they CHOSE to return the dog with an illegal collar again and again. Why aren't they being prosecuted for failure to report, playing accessory, or the like? If your going to have a law you need to consistantly enforce it, not just pick and choose how and when you're going to do so. That said, I don't think a £2000 fine is going to keep the dog secured in the yard any better than the collar did...and with that sort of fine I'm doubting that the fence that's the problem is going to be improved or made more secure in the near or distant future. It's great to say this is wrong and shouldn't have happened...but if the goal of a law (as stated in this article) is to promote a positive animal welfare situation again I fail to see how a fine is going to do so when the problem is in this instance...the dog frequently escaping and potentially putting itself in dangerous unspervised positions. Eh, that's all I got this mornin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bec Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 I've put an e-collar on myself and I'd happily put it on my neck. Any of the people in this thread who are vehemently opposed to e-collars who have actually done the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondog Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Bec - solely for kink, yeah sure. I would. Thats said, i dont need to drop a brick on my foot to know its wrong and that its going to hurt. Whats your point? Kind Regards Boondog PS: Can we have a pic of you wearing one....? lol (thats a joke BTW) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Aw come on .... we're gonna have this discussion again? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BingBlaze n Skyla Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 they played a video on the news of it being used a GSD that was chasing sheep.... they let the dog off lead in a field full of sheep and then when the dog run after the sheep they shocked it saying "ohh it dont hurt.... ect" but as soon as they shocked the dog it run off yelping in pain....... so i dont know how they can say it dont hurt :mad: :mad: :mad: :eek: they let the dog off just to prove a point!!! :mad: poor thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormFi Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 Should have been fined 20 000£! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Melsom Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 _T9qiGCq5sk As this is funny as hell it kinda shows u how bad they are >.< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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