MollynDiesel Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 I got D's pedigree certificate a few weeks ago and ive been looking at it over and over, because it looks awesome1 LOVING the names on there, very weird lol But i noticed a name 'Daz whiter than white' twice on his mums side and twice on his dads side. E.g Tarok resharn- Daz whiter than white + Tolgoblin ice maiden + Sweet snowblossom- Daz whiter than white+Wyphursts rosie Inbreeding? And does anyone else have this on their certificate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Steve Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 hiya. On Qilaqs dads side daz whiter than white shows on the pedigree with dream of siam. Additionally on his dads side we have tolgoblin ranging stranger twice as well. so looks like our two are related somewhere down the line lol :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollynDiesel Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 hiya. On Qilaqs dads side daz whiter than white shows on the pedigree with dream of siam. Additionally on his dads side we have tolgoblin ranging stranger twice as well. so looks like our two are related somewhere down the line lol Oooooooh thats pretty cool Looks like whoever 'Daz whiter than white' was he's a proper player lol Ive got tolgoblin ranging stranger on mine to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Steve Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 thats interesting!!!! do u have whiskeys little imp? what are you dogs parents names and grandparents name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollynDiesel Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 thats interesting!!!! do u have whiskeys little imp? what are you dogs parents names and grandparents name? Very interesting. Yep, bred with tolgoblin ranging stranger His mum- aromist moonlync Grandmum mums side- Kenmilltri waterlady Grandad mums side- Paperback writer Dad- Boxhall boy Grandmum dads side- Mystic fantasy Grandad dads side- Snowbles warrior prince What are your dogs parents, grandparents names?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Steve Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 was the pup of ranging stranger and little imp on your pedigree a male named wesmania dainea? if so who was he bred with? mum - star grandad mums side - nez purse grandmum mums side - leather and lace babe dad - adeyvilles surprise grandad dads side - white lightning mase grandmum dads side - corries hatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollynDiesel Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 was the pup of ranging stranger and little imp on your pedigree a male named wesmania dainea? if so who was he bred with? mum - star grandad mums side - nez purse grandmum mums side - leather and lace babe dad - adeyvilles surprise grandad dads side - white lightning mase grandmum dads side - corries hatt Cool. Some interesting names lol And yep wesmania dianea bred with Cass of ice to make nordick agia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Steve Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 yeah wesmania dainea with case of ice to make prince of scarr so guess thats nordic agias brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollynDiesel Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 yeah wesmania dainea with case of ice to make prince of scarr so guess thats nordic agias brother. Thats awesome. They have the same great great grandparents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideways Steve Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 yeah I know :-) funny eh what part of the country is diesel from ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollynDiesel Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 yeah I know funny eh what part of the country is diesel from ? Yh funny Diesel is originally from burnham near slough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 grey has daz whiter than whan white and little imp aswell i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollynDiesel Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 grey has daz whiter than whan white and little imp aswell i think Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowpup Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Aya's dad's pedigree has daz whiter than white on there twice I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollynDiesel Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Ok i started a new thread just for 'daz whiter than white' lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kissu & Aara Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Doesn't sound like inbreeding, so long as there isn't a female that's repeated more than once with him as well. He sounds like a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutsibe Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 It's actually called "line breeding" - it's related to inbreeding, and is actually a little less concentrated form of inbreeding. It's very common, and it's effective - providing you know what the dogs involved have as positive and negative characteristics - and similar information about their ancestry, too! Especially important to know health and temperament information, such as that there were no known ancestors (and preferably no close relatives!) who had genetic eye diseases, hip dysplasia, or other health problems... It makes any common genes more likely to be expressed - good OR bad! - so if you know what you're doing, you can get better results than by breeding largely unrelated individuals. If you don't know what you're doing, though, especially with really close relatives, it can be disastrous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raindog Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Unfortunately the fact that lots of people on here have the same dogs in their dogs' pedigrees is not co-incidence, simply the reflection of the fact that 15 years or so ago, there were a handful of good breeders on the one hand, and a handful of puppy farmers and backyard breeders on the other. The latter group tended to use the same stud dogs over and over again - hence the appearance of dogs like "Daz", in hundreds of pedigrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid_Wolf Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Unfortunately the fact that lots of people on here have the same dogs in their dogs' pedigrees is not co-incidence, simply the reflection of the fact that 15 years or so ago, there were a handful of good breeders on the one hand, and a handful of puppy farmers and backyard breeders on the other. The latter group tended to use the same stud dogs over and over again - hence the appearance of dogs like "Daz", in hundreds of pedigrees. I had a feeling that would be the case, i know greys breeders arent great. I contacted the name on him mums pedigree, and asked about him, and she said she had no idea and that she wasnt his breeder, but the mum was a girl she sold, when i asked if she could give me contact details of this person, she didnt know who she sold her too!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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