Kara Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 http://blog.timesunion.com/dogs/a-sad-tale-in-bethlehem-dog-fatally-shot-by-animal-control-officer/2923/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutumnAlicia Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 thats so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kper Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 That saddens me. She was just doing what was instinct. I fear if Ahna were to get out then something like this might happen since she has such a high prey drive. In Iowa it is legal to shoot a dog if it is so much as chasing a domestic animal or bird. If it isn't wearing a collar: "It shall be lawful for any person, and the duty of all peace officers within their respective jurisdictions unless such jurisdiction shall have otherwise provided for the seizure and impoundment of dogs, to kill any dog for which a rabies vaccination tag is required, when the dog is not wearing a collar with rabies vaccination tag attached." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Oakley Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 There were so many ways to deal with this, but the way the ACO dealt with it was wrong. I feel for the family of that Husky. Sabrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kper Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 There were so many ways to deal with this, but the way the ACO dealt with it was wrong. I feel for the family of that Husky. Sabrina It all seems to boil down to the individual who responds to the call. For example; we had a stray cat that was hanging around the house for most of the winter and it took us months to get it to come up to us. We discovered it was declawed and very sweet, obviously somebody's pet at some time. We figured the best way to find it a home was to get it to the humane society but they wanted a fee if we dropped it off or we could call the sheriff's office and they would pick it up for free (seems backwards, doesn't it?). Anyway we called the sheriff. We were at work and our daughter was home when he finally arrived. All he had to do was place a bit of food in a crate and the cat would have walked right in, as friendly as it had become. But no. Instead, he shows up with a cardboard box, picks up the cat and tries to stuff it into the box! Obviously the cat resisted and in the fight that ensued the officer was bitten. He did manage to get the cat in the box but because he was bitten the cat was put down to check for rabies. My daughter was on the phone with me in disbelief how it was handled and the cop was pissed that he was bitten. I would have been too but he should have seen it coming. All said and done, it was the cat that lost. Pitty.:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenwolf Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 This is the linked response from a rancher on their take on the incident - warning for graphic images: http://blog.timesunion.com/farmlife/8372/dog-shot-at-farm-in-bethlehem/ I hate hearing stories like this. I truly feel for the dog's owners, but I understand animal control and farm owners concerns and decisive actions in such situations. If one horse was so distraught that it started running into the fence to get away, there was a very real chance the the animals could have panicked to the point that they would try to escape the pen by whatever means necessary, and would probably cause themselves massive injury doing so. Vet bills on a dog are nothing compared to the cost and intensive care required in the recovery of a horse - they can't just not use an injured leg. Looks like the whole incident happened pretty quick. The livestock owner and animal control tried to go in and chase the dog from the pen, but apparently it growled at them and would not be deterred. Unfortunately too, the owners are completely oblivious to the prey drive that their dog was capable of: "It doesn't add up," Decker said. "I don't understand why she would all of a sudden be vicious to an animal ... I don't understand how all that happened in that short amount of time... There's not one person who knew that dog who would say she was vicious," said Meghan Decker, 20. It's not a question of whether or not the dog was vicious - she suddenly discovered prey animals who were frightened of her, and instinct dictates pursuit. It's fun with deadly intent, and the damage can be devastating. It's just so unfortunate that it happened so quickly and they shot her so fast, but I can't rightly blame them. It sounds too like if things had have resolved with the owner successfully catching her that they would have been dismissive of the seriousness of the situation, and that's no good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 First of all I think the person who shot this dog should not be allowed to keep his job. Whether or not this dog was attacking a horse lets take a look at the horse ok it weighs what compared to the average husky. As a farm girl myself I have seen a horse chase off a bear they are strong animals and will defend its self. Heck my little sister was kicked in the face by a horse and needed 14 reconstructive surgery's. So to say that he NEEDED to shoot this dog was total BS. Regardless of the situation no animal needs to be shot there are many other ways they should have and could have handled this situation. IMHO this guy was trigger happy and felt the need to not use the one brain cell he has left in his head. I have had Bellatrix chase a horse and ducks and alot of other farm animals before growling and being a total tard But we were able to rope her and bring her to her senses. We did NOT need to shoot her. My heart goes out to the family that just lost there precious dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tams Teeko and Keeta Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 This is the linked response from a rancher on their take on the incident - warning for graphic images: http://blog.timesunion.com/farmlife/8372/dog-shot-at-farm-in-bethlehem/ I hate hearing stories like this. I truly feel for the dog's owners, but I understand animal control and farm owners concerns and decisive actions in such situations. If one horse was so distraught that it started running into the fence to get away, there was a very real chance the the animals could have panicked to the point that they would try to escape the pen by whatever means necessary, and would probably cause themselves massive injury doing so. Vet bills on a dog are nothing compared to the cost and intensive care required in the recovery of a horse - they can't just not use an injured leg. Looks like the whole incident happened pretty quick. The livestock owner and animal control tried to go in and chase the dog from the pen, but apparently it growled at them and would not be deterred. Unfortunately too, the owners are completely oblivious to the prey drive that their dog was capable of: "It doesn't add up," Decker said. "I don't understand why she would all of a sudden be vicious to an animal ... I don't understand how all that happened in that short amount of time... There's not one person who knew that dog who would say she was vicious," said Meghan Decker, 20. It's not a question of whether or not the dog was vicious - she suddenly discovered prey animals who were frightened of her, and instinct dictates pursuit. It's fun with deadly intent, and the damage can be devastating. It's just so unfortunate that it happened so quickly and they shot her so fast, but I can't rightly blame them. It sounds too like if things had have resolved with the owner successfully catching her that they would have been dismissive of the seriousness of the situation, and that's no good either. I like it when we agree! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenwolf Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I like it when we agree! :-D LOL! Me too! Even a broken clock is right twice a day! First of all I think the person who shot this dog should not be allowed to keep his job. Whether or not this dog was attacking a horse lets take a look at the horse ok it weighs what compared to the average husky. As a farm girl myself I have seen a horse chase off a bear they are strong animals and will defend its self. Heck my little sister was kicked in the face by a horse and needed 14 reconstructive surgery's. So to say that he NEEDED to shoot this dog was total BS. Regardless of the situation no animal needs to be shot there are many other ways they should have and could have handled this situation. IMHO this guy was trigger happy and felt the need to not use the one brain cell he has left in his head. I have had Bellatrix chase a horse and ducks and alot of other farm animals before growling and being a total tard But we were able to rope her and bring her to her senses. We did NOT need to shoot her. My heart goes out to the family that just lost there precious dog. I think this is the vision that you have in your head: Now, in most cases that may be true, especially if the dog is being playful and just a nuisance. But when a dog goes after a horse with intent, for the majority of horses, flight is preferable to fight. Many horses will not fight unless they are desperate and cannot escape, and will try anything if there is a chance to get away. And if the horse doesn't fight back - or fights back with moderate success - injury can still occur and dogs can do a lot of damage (linked to spare the weak stomached): http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/imageBank/f/foal-no-ear.jpg http://www.vancouversun.com/3747441.bin?size=620x400 http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2010/10/26/KYLIESANTU_ARTICLE_IMAGE_IA019877_48427.JPG http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/imageBank/d/dog-attack.jpg http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2009/04/07/MJSHETLAND_STORY_-_SQUARE_FF437024_61572.JPG http://media.naplesnews.com/media/img/photos/2010/03/12/100312NS-GK-HORSE026_t300.jpg http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i166/louisechris1/DSCF2191.jpg http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/thumbnail.aspx?refId=2346004&refRef=img&style=full This one is just a "harmless" nip on the nose: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mehpenn/Animals/046.jpg These are just a few news articles describing attacks: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/5986447/Miniature-horses-mauled-by-dogs http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=3747576&sponsor= http://digitaljournal.com/article/302633 http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/mar/11/dogs-maul-kill-horse-teen-thrown-horse-during-atta/ http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/1314165 http://louiseburden.multiply.com/journal/item/111?&show_interstitial=1&u=%2Fjournal%2Fitem Personally, I've had a loose dog attack my horse while we were walking down the road! Fortunately my horse is used to dogs and a bold individual, so I had him charge the dog the moment it rushed us. The dog was not expecting that and did a 180, but we had to stay facing it until the owner came out and got it - any time we tried to move away it tried to rush the horse from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irene Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 http://blog.timesunion.com/dogs/a-sad-tale-in-bethlehem-dog-fatally-shot-by-animal-control-officer/2923/ very sad ....im sure could have used a drug dart ...no need to shoot to kill ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellatrix Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 LOL! Me too! Even a broken clock is right twice a day! I think this is the vision that you have in your head: Now, in most cases that may be true, especially if the dog is being playful and just a nuisance. But when a dog goes after a horse with intent, for the majority of horses, flight is preferable to fight. Many horses will not fight unless they are desperate and cannot escape, and will try anything if there is a chance to get away. And if the horse doesn't fight back - or fights back with moderate success - injury can still occur and dogs can do a lot of damage (linked to spare the weak stomached): http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/imageBank/f/foal-no-ear.jpg http://www.vancouversun.com/3747441.bin?size=620x400 http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2010/10/26/KYLIESANTU_ARTICLE_IMAGE_IA019877_48427.JPG http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/imageBank/d/dog-attack.jpg http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2009/04/07/MJSHETLAND_STORY_-_SQUARE_FF437024_61572.JPG http://media.naplesnews.com/media/img/photos/2010/03/12/100312NS-GK-HORSE026_t300.jpg http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i166/louisechris1/DSCF2191.jpg http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/thumbnail.aspx?refId=2346004&refRef=img&style=full This one is just a "harmless" nip on the nose: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/mehpenn/Animals/046.jpg These are just a few news articles describing attacks: http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/5986447/Miniature-horses-mauled-by-dogs http://www.vancouversun.com/story_print.html?id=3747576&sponsor= http://digitaljournal.com/article/302633 http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/mar/11/dogs-maul-kill-horse-teen-thrown-horse-during-atta/ http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/1314165 http://louiseburden.multiply.com/journal/item/111?&show_interstitial=1&u=/journal/item Personally, I've had a loose dog attack my horse while we were walking down the road! Fortunately my horse is used to dogs and a bold individual, so I had him charge the dog the moment it rushed us. The dog was not expecting that and did a 180, but we had to stay facing it until the owner came out and got it - any time we tried to move away it tried to rush the horse from behind. I think u r extremely rude and closed off to other peoples opinions. Personally I am done with forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted February 13, 2012 Report Share Posted February 13, 2012 I think u r extremely rude and closed off to other peoples opinions. Personally I am done with forum And i think there was no need for that remark personally - the OP wasn't attacking you or anything, just offering a different point of view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Melsom Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Thats sad Animals will be animals tho I wish people would understand that they dont need to be shot becasue of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenwolf Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think u r extremely rude and closed off to other peoples opinions. Personally I am done with forum My purpose was not to offend and I'm surprised at your reaction. I even agreed that "in most cases that may be true, especially if the dog is being playful and just a nuisance." But I disagree with your thorough dismissal of the potential damage a dog can do just because they are so much smaller than a horse, and the examples above prove that they can do serious harm. Can you please explain how disagreeing with you and showing you examples of injuries that dogs have done to horses is rude? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyka&Diva Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 so sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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