Removed #5 Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I'm looking at a book Mihaly Munkácsy's Trilogy of Christ and one of the contributors is Eva SZ. Bodnar. Could one of you who might be familiar with the language tell me what the "SZ." stands for? Well, it says this topic is for anything that doesn't have to do with Husky's, right?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 is it short for Schweiz ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 hmm no scrap that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Ohhhhhhh hold on!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 it's how you address an older woman in Poland i think??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I really don't have a clue (clew?) I thought Hungarian names were generally "backwards" anyway, I'm assuming that Eva is her first name and Bodnar is her patronymic ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) You mean like "I think Bodnar" naw, I don't really think so .... anyway, this is Hungarian, not Polish! Edited May 10, 2014 by Al Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 well sz is the 32nd letter of the hungarian alphabet if that helps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 I was right about the position of personal / family names and nope, read for how they come up with Mr / Mrs.... In Hungarian, the given name is put after the family name of a person: János (John) Kis (Little) becomes Kis János (John Little). The title is put after the last name: úr (Mr.) Kis (Little) becomes Kis úr (Mr. Little). When addressing a woman, the title is tagged onto the last name in form of a suffix: -né (Mrs.) Kis (Little) becomes Kisné (Mrs. Little). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_names While that's an interesting article, I didn't find the answer to my question in it. Did I overlook something or did you read it differently than I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 No i just found it interesting Sz is the thirty-second letter of the Hungarian alphabet. Its name is (using English pronunciation with letter romanization) "ess" in the alphabet. It represents /s/. Thus, names likeLiszt are pronounced /list/ list. In Hungarian, even if two characters are put together to make a different sound, they are considered one letter (a true digraph), and even acronyms keep the letter intact. Hungarian usage of s and sz are the reverse of the Polish usage. In Hungarian, s represents /ʃ/ (a sound similar to /ʂ/). Therefore, the Hungarian capital of Budapest is natively pronounced (/ˈbudɒpɛʃt/), rhyming with standard English fleshed rather than pest. after googling - it seems Sz is just a letter of the alphabet in Hungary? So maybe it's an initial for her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's possible but I can't find anything that relates to it. In her writing the publishers often leave it out, which does happen quite a bit with "middle initials" - she happens to be a Doctor (of something or other) but Doctor in Hungarian is Orvos so I'll consider that Sz is probably not an abbreviation, so it's shot down as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 tagged Northenstar - they are closest to Hungary and may know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northenstar Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Sz it is the initial of her surname. They use it a lot for abreviating of one of their surnames ( they usually have two, as well as Romanians). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 NOW we know! Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed #5 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Thank you Bianca, I've looked around the web and all I've ever seen is either Eva SZ. Bodnar or Eva Bodnar so it left me lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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