jonnyc4t Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hey guys, Long time no talk - I have posted here quite a bit regarding my almost 6 year old Siberian Odin and how he gulps/licks lips/went through periods of little activity. It would subside for a bit and then come back, I took him to the vet more than I probably should have when this stuff started to happen (history is in the 2 posts I linked). They vet gave no me info, they tested him and checked him for literally everything (talking ~7 grand spent trying to diagnose this). I eventually got very frustrated and said the hell with kibble and decided to try something different which is a freeze dried dog food called Sojo. After getting Odin off kibble I saw what I considered a drastic change in his demeanor. Lately my 1.5 year old female Ahri as well as Odin have both become very picky about their food. With Sojo you mix it into some warm/hot water and let it sit for about 15 minutes before service or adding your own meat to it and then serving. They offer two types one with freeze dried meat already added or a mix that contains just the veggie/fruits your dog needs and then you pick the meat to mix in. I decided to try a new flavor for them since I like to rotate to avoid them getting sick of it.I bought the lamb (these are like $70 USD bags of food...) and both hated it. I then bought them the beef, which they've had before and enjoyed, both of them didn't want anything to do with it. Because I had just spent $140USD on dog food I decided they were going to either eat it or starve. I also had a bag of Merrick beef kibble in my cabinet because that is what Ahri was still eating when I switched Odin to Sojo. Anyways I would put the kibble and Sojo out for both of them in hopes they'd eat one or the other...and they both eventually got hungry enough that they picked at it. This went on for maybe 1-2 weeks of eating some Sojo, some kibble. Odin was mostly picking the kibble and Ahri the Sojo. Saturday after I walked the two of them we got home and I had to run out to the store. I was gone for about 2 hours and when I got home I got no greeting from Odin, they're both very vocal. When Odin went to roo at me he did a very weird tongue thing and then would put his head down. A weird minimal noise that I guess resembled a roo would come out, but it was not his full all out wolf howl. I did my best to capture his mouth thing he's been doing in the video below in hopes someone might have encountered this themselves and had a remedy for it. I switched Odin back to Sojo veggie and mixing boiled hamburger into it, I have my fingers crossed that a week back on this food and off kibble again will fix him. Any help/insight/anything is always so greatly appreciated!!!-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------So in this first video around the 15 second mark is exactly what I am talking about with his half roo. All of Saturday he was walking around depressed and that noise is the only thing he could really produce. Of course in this video he eventually gets to his all out howl but it even looks like it's hurting him to do so: This second video is the weird mouth thing Odin does when he gets excited like he is going to roo but then cannot: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) In the tests they performed, have they done any X-rays and endoscopy to look at the airways? I've seen someone on Facebook have problems with their husky coughing and looking depressed and eventually they found it was a condition called EBD. (I don't know much about the condition though except it's treated with steroids as is many things inflammatory related). I'm not suggesting this is the problem but was just wondering what has already been ruled out. Edit: I couldn't get the videos to work last night but I managed to see them this morning. Ihe top one where he opens and closes his mouth with no sound coming out, is that what you mean? That's what Ice does too sometimes. Usually if I'm howling and he wants to copy but isn't quite sure how. So he'll open and close his mouth a lot but nothing happens. Eventually he'll just woo at me. Lol. Edited September 22, 2015 by Emma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc4t Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Edit: I couldn't get the videos to work last night but I managed to see them this morning. Ihe top one where he opens and closes his mouth with no sound coming out, is that what you mean? That's what Ice does too sometimes. Usually if I'm howling and he wants to copy but isn't quite sure how. So he'll open and close his mouth a lot but nothing happens. Eventually he'll just woo at me. Lol. Hey Emma!! Yeah everything from Addison's testing to endoscopy to ultra sound to xrays have been done in the past. Maybe it's the season changing and allergies? I was so relieved to have this problem go away for so long!! Odin is extremely vocal so I don't think it's him trying to copy and not being able to. One example is any time I leave the house for more than an hour and return its a husky concert between the two of them. Now it's just Ahri howling with excitement and Odin who tries to howl as he usually does, not being able to. He lets out little noises and then stops and starts doing the mouth opening/licking thing. I can't get a good video of him doing it - here is one where I play a youtube video of other sibes bickering. Both of mine love this video and it makes them go crazy. At the very start you can see what he does before he goes full howl but even his full howl sounds weak and raspy. Maybe he just has a sore throat...?? Edited September 22, 2015 by jonnyc4t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emma Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Wow, he's had quite a comprehensive check then! I know someone who gets hay fever in the autumn time. Most of us suffer in the spring/summer but she is allergic to specific pollen that's released early autumn. Makes her nose stuff up and eyes water. So allergies could be possible. If it is food related, could you try a grain free food? Something hypoallergenic? Usually the culprits turn out to be grain but I have heard of protein sources being an issue for some too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Sorry I don't have any advice but I hope it gets sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elyse Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 I just had a thought - have his lungs been checked out?How is his breathing? Is it normal or does he get winded easily? Is his breathing loud or making any other funny noises? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyc4t Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I just had a thought - have his lungs been checked out?How is his breathing? Is it normal or does he get winded easily? Is his breathing loud or making any other funny noises? Breathing seems fine, doesn't get winded easily but when running around and playing hard he tends to stop/hack which sets his whole mentality off. I gave it a weekish of limited howling/using his vocals and he seems to be feeling better. Vocal again but still randomly gulping/swallowing. He had a checkup within the last month or two and they checked everything then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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